Final thoughts on Assange allegations
June 27, 2012
Here’s my final response to the few negative responses that have come out of our interview with Christine Assange and her providing facts about the Swedish police rape allegations against Julian Assange.
Here’s the original interview with Christine Assange.
Yesterday, we posted a response to the response to the interview.
This is a response to the response we got from ^that post:
I thought quite a bit about how I wanted to respond to this. At first, I obviously felt angry, annoyed, irked that people seem so invested in Julian Assange’s guilt that they are unwilling to look at any of the facts of the case, of the allegations, etc. I found it frustrating that no sources were provided that contradicted ANY of the facts that we and Christine Assange had presented, and yet, still, the same three people who have aggressively responded to our Assange posts, aggressively responded again, accusing us of loving Julian Assange SO MUCH that we are excusing away the RAPES he committed.
But I believe that the harshest critics of our Wikileaks coverage are sincere and misinformed and passionate about taking sexual-violence seriously. I take rape and sexual violence very seriously. So seriously in fact that I can feel my body physically react (my muscles tense, my stomach turns and I feel incredibly anxious) every time the subject is brought up, every-time I see a scene in a movie or hear a news story or hear about sexual violence. I will never excuse away rape, apologize for rape or dismiss rape.
I hate rape. 
As a survivor of rape and childhood sexual violence, I hate rape with every bone in my body. And I hate that we live in a culture that trivializes and dismisses the claims and allegations of men and particularly of women who survive sexual violence. If Julian Assange was being charged with rape or if there was a victim alleging rape, I would support his extradition.
It would be hard for me, of course, it would be a strange coincidence in the favor of the United States, a bizarre happens-stance that right at the time when the United States has launched an assault on Julian Assange and after several prominent United States politicians have begun suggesting life-in-prison and even the death sentence for Julian Assange, that allegations surface that would allow for an extradition to Sweden which would allow the United States to get their hands on Julian Assange. I literally couldn’t think of a more perfect way to dismantle support for Julian Assange. It would be the United State’s lucky day - a wild coincidence!
But I don’t support Julian Assange’s extradition, because he has not been charged, because he has made repeated attempts to conduct interviews with the police to clear his name and has been ignored, and I don’t find the police allegation, without a victim, a witness, or any non-government -official of any kind alleging rape to be very credible. The information is clear and sourced in easy-to-navigate ways that people who care about supporting truth and transparency have spent time to put together. Read through some of it if you’re interested. 
I hate that anyone would use rape as a tool to achieve their goal. It trivializes rape and makes it into a joke. Rape is not a joke. It is a serious allegation. I wonder if those beating the extradite-Julian-for-his-serial-rapes drum think that Julian is owed any sort of ANYTHING – a victim alleging a crime, a charge, a report from police on why they have come to the conclusion that he might be a rapist, at least?
I literally don’t think there is any amount of information that can persuade you that Julian Assange is not a rapist. For whatever reason (and it really is a mystery to me – you guys don’t actually seem stupid), you seem to need to believe it. I find that incredibly demoralizing but because I care about not trivializing victims of abuse by arbitrarily supporting  dishonest, manipulative, police/government tactics and because I care about continued transparency, The People’s Record will continue to thoroughly and carefully read and understand the specifics of a situation before we come down on a person’s guilt – particularly a person who has angered so many powerful people and particularly in situations with so many bizarre, coincidental and illusory details. If you find yourself certain of Julian Assange’s guilt, you should definitely ask yourself where your certainty is rooted, and what, amidst the available facts and information of this case sustains in?
As for whether he should be extradited to be questioned, without being charged with anything, no. I do think he should continue to reach out to the prosecution and continue his many attempts to answer the prosecution’s questions. But I think considering the fact that the only allegations come from the police and that there have been no charges, and that there is plenty of reason (check out the compiled list of facts that Christine Assange has posted if you don’t believe me) to believe that this might not be about rape allegations at all, considering all that, the prosecution should go out of their way to conduct questioning in a way that doesn’t involve extradition to Sweden and move forward with the investigation from there. If they come up with a credible case, find somebody who will allege rape and charge him, then I think he should be extradited and face trial. If found guilty, I think he should be punished to the full extent of the law.
With the exception of breaking news about the case though, we probably won’t be posting another response to rape-allegation responses. Later today though, we will be posting the second half of the interview, which deals with a whole lot of other Assange/Wikileaks related stuff so look out for that too!
-R.Cunningham

Final thoughts on Assange allegations

June 27, 2012

Here’s my final response to the few negative responses that have come out of our interview with Christine Assange and her providing facts about the Swedish police rape allegations against Julian Assange.

Here’s the original interview with Christine Assange.

Yesterday, we posted a response to the response to the interview.

This is a response to the response we got from ^that post:

I thought quite a bit about how I wanted to respond to this. At first, I obviously felt angry, annoyed, irked that people seem so invested in Julian Assange’s guilt that they are unwilling to look at any of the facts of the case, of the allegations, etc. I found it frustrating that no sources were provided that contradicted ANY of the facts that we and Christine Assange had presented, and yet, still, the same three people who have aggressively responded to our Assange posts, aggressively responded again, accusing us of loving Julian Assange SO MUCH that we are excusing away the RAPES he committed.

But I believe that the harshest critics of our Wikileaks coverage are sincere and misinformed and passionate about taking sexual-violence seriously. I take rape and sexual violence very seriously. So seriously in fact that I can feel my body physically react (my muscles tense, my stomach turns and I feel incredibly anxious) every time the subject is brought up, every-time I see a scene in a movie or hear a news story or hear about sexual violence. I will never excuse away rape, apologize for rape or dismiss rape.

I hate rape.

As a survivor of rape and childhood sexual violence, I hate rape with every bone in my body. And I hate that we live in a culture that trivializes and dismisses the claims and allegations of men and particularly of women who survive sexual violence. If Julian Assange was being charged with rape or if there was a victim alleging rape, I would support his extradition.

It would be hard for me, of course, it would be a strange coincidence in the favor of the United States, a bizarre happens-stance that right at the time when the United States has launched an assault on Julian Assange and after several prominent United States politicians have begun suggesting life-in-prison and even the death sentence for Julian Assange, that allegations surface that would allow for an extradition to Sweden which would allow the United States to get their hands on Julian Assange. I literally couldn’t think of a more perfect way to dismantle support for Julian Assange. It would be the United State’s lucky day - a wild coincidence!

But I don’t support Julian Assange’s extradition, because he has not been charged, because he has made repeated attempts to conduct interviews with the police to clear his name and has been ignored, and I don’t find the police allegation, without a victim, a witness, or any non-government -official of any kind alleging rape to be very credible. The information is clear and sourced in easy-to-navigate ways that people who care about supporting truth and transparency have spent time to put together. Read through some of it if you’re interested.

I hate that anyone would use rape as a tool to achieve their goal. It trivializes rape and makes it into a joke. Rape is not a joke. It is a serious allegation. I wonder if those beating the extradite-Julian-for-his-serial-rapes drum think that Julian is owed any sort of ANYTHING – a victim alleging a crime, a charge, a report from police on why they have come to the conclusion that he might be a rapist, at least?

I literally don’t think there is any amount of information that can persuade you that Julian Assange is not a rapist. For whatever reason (and it really is a mystery to me – you guys don’t actually seem stupid), you seem to need to believe it. I find that incredibly demoralizing but because I care about not trivializing victims of abuse by arbitrarily supporting  dishonest, manipulative, police/government tactics and because I care about continued transparency, The People’s Record will continue to thoroughly and carefully read and understand the specifics of a situation before we come down on a person’s guilt – particularly a person who has angered so many powerful people and particularly in situations with so many bizarre, coincidental and illusory details. If you find yourself certain of Julian Assange’s guilt, you should definitely ask yourself where your certainty is rooted, and what, amidst the available facts and information of this case sustains in?

As for whether he should be extradited to be questioned, without being charged with anything, no. I do think he should continue to reach out to the prosecution and continue his many attempts to answer the prosecution’s questions. But I think considering the fact that the only allegations come from the police and that there have been no charges, and that there is plenty of reason (check out the compiled list of facts that Christine Assange has posted if you don’t believe me) to believe that this might not be about rape allegations at all, considering all that, the prosecution should go out of their way to conduct questioning in a way that doesn’t involve extradition to Sweden and move forward with the investigation from there. If they come up with a credible case, find somebody who will allege rape and charge him, then I think he should be extradited and face trial. If found guilty, I think he should be punished to the full extent of the law.

With the exception of breaking news about the case though, we probably won’t be posting another response to rape-allegation responses. Later today though, we will be posting the second half of the interview, which deals with a whole lot of other Assange/Wikileaks related stuff so look out for that too!

-R.Cunningham

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    Reblogging this by itself because this is what I’ve tried to say before about the Michael Fassbender allegations....
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    Just to be clear, this is what Assange’s lawyer is saying.
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    Well put
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